This is another debate I hear online all the time, with a huge amount of misinformation being broadcast.
I have no axe to grind either way as I don’t sell intercoolers, but I thought I’d add some proper numbers to the debate.
It seemed obvious to me that moving a heat exchanger away from under a hot bonnet to the cold front of a car is going to increase intercooler efficiency and decrease charge temperatures, so lets see some logs and do some calcs.
1. Do FMICs cause extra lag?
No, at least not enough to notice, and it can be mapped out.
The runs on the FMIC of the ESL car (not reversed) are about 2m either side of the cooler.
The hardpipes are 2.5in diameter (6.35cm), so CSA is pi*r^2 = 0.0032m^2
Total volume of hardpipe is length*CSA=0.013m^3
If we look at the spool up condition, I’m going to say 4000rpm, 1 bar, 100% VE, a 2 litre engine is going to shift around 0.133m^3/s (IRO 280CFM in old money). Which is 0.066m^3 when compressed in the pipework.
Lets say that the TMIC has a zero length pipe run for simplicity. That means the extra time getting the air through the added FMIC pipework volume is 0.2 seconds.
0.2 seconds will be completely lost in the noise of the turbo dynamics, and furthermore can be mapped out on ESL.
I’ve assumed the same volume for both ICs, but the point is, if you take the same IC and put it on the front, then it will be more efficient with virtually no additional lag.
2. Do FMICs reduce charge temps over a TMIC?
Yes.
Here is a graph of my 550bhp demo car on a hyperflow fmic. Most FMICs will give similar results, as they are simple air to air heat exchangers at the end of the day.
As you can see, charge temps decrease (bottom trace) with increasing vehicle speed (sawtooth on the engine speed going through the gears), as you would expect due to the extra cooling of the intercooler being mounted at the front.
Here is a graph of a car running a high quality TMIC:
The logs resolution is pretty poor compared to ESL logger, but the important thing to observe is that charge temps (blue) increase with vehicle speed (green), the complete opposite of the FMIC.
Taken from a debate on scoobynet I had sometime ago:
http://www.scoobynet.com/954531-bhp-difference-tmic-and-fmic-4.html
3. “I don’t need a FMIC until 400 bhp”.
Untrue. You will feel the benefit of a FMIC at any power level. As a rule of thumb, an ebay intercooler will liberate about 10% more power than the early slanted turbo TMIC, so on a healthy early classic with a TD05-16g with the usual decat, induction, fuel pump and 440s will see something like 320bhp on a FMIC and 290bhp on a TMIC.
4. So how do I map lag out?
Easily, with a mappable ECU. Here’s how with ESL:
As you can see, there is room for spool improvement in the full throttle line up to the spool point.
If we modify the WG duty map like this:
We have diverted all signal away from the wastegate up to the spool point. As long as there is no surge or overshoot (which can also be addressed in turbo dynamics), this will give best possible spool, and may mean that even with the fitment of a FMIC, it may be possible to beat the response of the original TMIC, i.e. have your cake and eat it.
5. So what are the disadvantages of a FMIC?
Buying and fitting it, which involves cutting the front bumper.